Commons:Village pump/Archive/2024/08

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Request to delete two files I uploaded because of license

Hi,

could someone please delete the files File:Reljefna karta Hrvatskog zagorja.png and File:Administrativna karta Hrvatskog zagorja.png? I uploaded these files as they were licensed under free CC licenses, but I later learned that Commons doesn't accept CC BY-NC licenses.

Sorry for the trouble! --Ashune (talk) 14:26, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

@Ashune: Will do, but for the future please see Template:My bad upload. - Jmabel ! talk 17:06, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

Thanks! I'll use that template in the future.

P.S. I'll make my own maps and upload them under the same names in the near future. (Just a heads up so someone seeing this doesn't also delete those. Ashune (talk) 20:34, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

This section was archived on a request by: Jmabel ! talk 17:08, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

Meet with the Structured Content team at Wikimania!

Hi all! CParle (WMF) and I will be attending Wikimania 2024 in Katowice, Poland. Despite not having any presentation in the program, we wanted to let you know that, if you're attending Wikimania too, you can come meet us at all time during the conference and discuss with us about UploadWizard improvements or about the logo detection tool or just Commons issues. We'll be around during the whole conference, so from August 7 to 10, don't be shy and come to say hi! Sannita (WMF) (talk) 14:38, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

Commons Gazette 2024-08

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Santo Domingo de Guzmán

Category:Santo Domingo de Guzmán, Dominican Republic might need renaming. wikipedias say "Santo Domingo, originalmente como Santo Domingo de Guzmán..." RZuo (talk) 15:17, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

How is this a VP-level issue, rather than just a reason for a CfD? - Jmabel ! talk 19:48, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

Somehow the cfd tool doesn't seem to work. Enhancing999 (talk) 15:19, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

Tool worked fine for me. - Jmabel ! talk 19:18, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

This section was archived on a request by: Jmabel ! talk 19:18, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

Talk pages of deletion requests – again

Can we now have a final consensus on the problematic issue of using the said talk pages as discussion areas of deletion requests instead of deletion requests pages themselves? Another case, by @Estrellato: (this one), which I have now moved to the main discussion page where it should be.

Other cases I recently passed by:

Context: Commons:Village pump/Proposals/Archive/2023/11#Disabling talk pages of deletion requests (no consensus or conclusion). JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 08:16, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

Support this change. There are, so far, over seven thousand deletion requests with talk pages (alphabetical list); at a glance, most of them were created by inexperienced or logged-out users in an attempt to respond to a deletion request, and many of them were never acknowledged by other editors. Blocking the creation of these pages, at least by non-autoconfirmed users, will do a lot to help these users get back on the right track. Omphalographer (talk) 05:17, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

@Omphalographer how about non-autopatrolled users instead, so to be more prudent in the proper use of the said talk pages? The Sarajevo railway station DR talk page was actually created by an autoconfirmed user (My-wiki-photos). JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 05:47, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

Ideally, yes! Any level of restriction we can add to creating these pages is a step in the right direction; my point was that even a very slight restriction (like requiring autoconfirmed) would help. Omphalographer (talk) 00:15, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

I'd probably back any proposal to tighten this. Auto-confirmed at the very least. - Jmabel ! talk 22:42, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

Support --Adamant1 (talk) 23:43, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

Done see Special:AbuseFilter/307 —Matrix(!) {user - talk? - _uselesscontributions} 06:15, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

Thanks @Matrix for the upgraded filter. Thanks also to all Wikimedia Commons users who participated in the old and current discussions. If there are no opposing users, this thread may now be requested for immediate archival. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 08:39, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

This section is resolved and can be archived. If you disagree, replace this template with your comment. --—Matrix(!) {user - talk? - _uselesscontributions} 08:45, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

2024 Summer Olympics logo.svg

Think we could export this to Commons as a simple logo?--Trade (talk) 04:34, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

No. I think this just meetsCOM:TOO-US via American Airlines. Glrx (talk) 14:21, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

Definitely above the ToO in France. Abzeronow (talk) 21:04, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

Acceptability of file names containing emoji

For instance File:Spring has arrived^^^^^ 🌼🌼🌼🌼🌼🌼 - Flickr - rossomoto.jpg. I was thinking about renaming to something without them but I don't want to waste my time on it if they aren't an issue. It seems like a super weird way to name files though. So Yes, no, or does it depend on the circumstances when it comes to file names with emoji? --Adamant1 (talk) 02:04, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

If you know specifically what the plant in the photo is, a rename to a more specific name would be in order (under criterion 2 - "meaningless or ambiguous name"). But renaming just to remove the emoji is harder to justify, especially when the filename is still meaningless without them. Omphalographer (talk) 04:02, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

@Omphalographer: Hhmmm. The Emoji seem to show up as different flowers depending on the platform. So I'm not even sure how I'd figure that out to begin with. Maybe they could just be replaced with "flowers" though since it doesn't seem to be a specific plant. --Adamant1 (talk) 04:22, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

I mean the budding flowers seen in the photo, not the ones represented by emoji in the filename. As you've astutely observed, the exact appearance of emoji is font-dependent. Omphalographer (talk) 05:13, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

The emoji is the same on every platform, but the rendering can change depending on which device/browser/etc. you view it with. ReneeWrites (talk) 07:09, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

@Adamant1: I don't think emoji are themselves objectionable in file names. Indeed in this case they're the only part of the filename that actually describes what's in the picture. They might be difficult to type, but I think we accept that people might have to copy and paste filenames that are in unfamiliar scripts. So unless there's actually some problem that they're causing, I think they can stay. --bjh21 (talk) 11:55, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

Commons:File naming advises "Avoid abusing Unicode...symbols such as "♥" are often more natural when spelled out ("heart"), also increasing visibility in search. Furthermore some characters do not render correctly at all in certain operating systems and browsers. It is a good idea to stick to letters, numbers, underscore (space), ASCII hyphen/minus/dash, plus, and period (dot), as these do not have any MediaWiki restrictions." DMacks (talk) 15:16, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

I wouldn't want to see emojis completely banned from file names -- in the most obvious case, they'd be appropriate in a file showing how a particular font renders that emoji -- but this seems like an inappropriate file name. - Jmabel ! talk 19:44, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

How is "Commons:File naming" relevant here? Enhancing999 (talk) 01:29, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

@Enhancing999 because it's about naming files? I don't understand the thrust of your question. - Jmabel ! talk 03:18, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

The question was if the filename is acceptable. Enhancing999 (talk) 03:36, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

I don't think the issue of emojis is at all addressed there; perhaps it should be. - Jmabel ! talk 04:14, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

Maybe need a new guideline that answers basic questions, such as Special:Permalink/830407356. Enhancing999 (talk) 04:19, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

Though certainly that was too tight: discouraged use of any non-Latin alphabet. - Jmabel ! talk 21:11, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

File:Leo K Thorsness.jpg

Can someone improve the crop on File:Leo K Thorsness.jpg? When using dark mode it looks like this: https://i.imgur.com/kS6tgE5.png Thanks, Polygnotus (talk) 14:44, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

@Polygnotus:

Done, but it took me a couple of tries with CropTool, which doesn't respect dark mode. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 16:41, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

@User:Jeff G. Thank you that looks a lot better! Polygnotus (talk) 17:26, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

@Polygnotus: You're welcome! — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 00:36, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

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Nominating for both speedy and community revue deletion has a problem

It appears that the nominator used speedy within the regular deletion process and when you hit the button to remove the speedy, it corrupts the initial nomination. See: https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Dunga_Rodrigues,_escritora_e_pianista._Cuiab%C3%A1.jpg&diff=prev&oldid=907116342 Can anything be done to fix this, other than the nominator not using both speedy and the regular deletion process at the same time? --RAN (talk) 01:20, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

Nearcoord and SDC

mw:Help:CirrusSearch#Geo_Search

it seems nearcoord doesnt work if a file only has coords in com:sdc.

either nearcoord or sdc has to be tweaked so that they work, or a bot needs to duplicate the sdc to {{Location}} on file pages. RZuo (talk) 14:33, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

@RZuo: If you have an example search and an example file that should be in the results but is not, please make a task for that in Phabricator. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 14:38, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

@RZuo: I would expect that including an empty {{Location}} template in the file's description would be enough. The template will automatically use the co-ordinates from structured data if it doesn't have any parameters, so there's no need to copy the co-ordinates. Have you tries that? --bjh21 (talk) 15:04, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

good tip! it works. i forgot about that.

so a bot needs to add that template to those files. RZuo (talk) 15:16, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

@RZuo: you can request at Commons:Bots/Work requests. - Jmabel ! talk 19:19, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

Image file seems broken

File:Northern England.svg is an image of a map but it looks like it's broken. The image fails to appear on the Wikipedia articles it's on for at least a week. Someone please check and correct the issue here. Plarety2 (talk) 22:45, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

Looks like a namespace problem:

error on line 5 at column 33: xmlns:i: '&ns_ai;' is not a valid URI

That looks like Adobe Illustrator using entities and then another application rewriting the file without expanding the entities.

Glrx (talk) 01:18, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

@Plarety2: should be fixed now. Glrx (talk) 04:06, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

There was a complaint earlier about svg files created with certain software no longer rendering. --RAN (talk) 01:22, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

New type of tram in Częstochowa

Examples in Category:Trams in Częstochowa by type. It is clearly not a Pesa Twist 2010N. In de description one talks of Twist II. Smiley.toerist (talk) 11:58, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

Can someone please revert the rotation of File:EB1911 Palaeontology - ichthyosaur with young - restoration.jpg

Hi, the user SteinsplitterBot rotated "File:EB1911 Palaeontology - ichthyosaur with young - restoration.jpg" for some unknown reason.This affects the layout on the associated Page:EB1911 - Volume 20.djvu/633. Can the rotation be reverted, thanks. DivermanAU (talk) 19:50, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

The rotation was requested by FunkMonk. -- Asclepias (talk) 20:43, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

@DivermanAU: I've reverted the file, since your objection makes the overwriting controversial under COM:OVERWRITE. I think the rotated version looks better, though, so I've uploaded it separately as File:EB1911 Palaeontology - ichthyosaur with young - restoration (facing downwards).jpg. --bjh21 (talk) 22:42, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

Thanks! Now the file matches the printed page again. DivermanAU (talk) 02:02, 9 August 2024 (UTC)